The Costume Brawl Thread

[QueenofDeath]

Originally Posted by shannamchealn

There seem's to be some debate on what build is more effective then others... i cant tell you how many people IG told me to "use an assasin noob"... to me it was laughable... after using every character class with the exception of paragon i can say, your character is only as good as the rest of your team.... in my opinion what character you choose means nothing if you are on a team with no orginization.

Im not here to complain... i am just here to say, if you are IG and telling people what character to use followed by colorful verbs... do us all a favor... unplug your keyboard and hit it against your forehead.... repeatedly...

that aside this is my first costume brawl and im enjoying it allot....

These ^ are the typical players I was talking about we have to play with who know nothing about the builds or synergies or pvp in general. Oh he'll probably come back and say they won 20 in a row with him playing a stupid mesmer or ele or something stupid, but, we all know the truth that know this game and pvp so well. )

[Kaitoa]

I think the most annoying thing about this game is unskilled players who think they have any chance solo against 2+ opponents. Seriously, if the opposing team/group has more numbers just run dont fight. Its that easy.
The other thing I really hate seeing is, ten seconds into a match and one of your team mates gets killed. Signaling an easy win for the other team.

[HawkofStorms]

Well... the thing with mesmers costume brawl is (or... anywhere for that matter)... great memsers are okay... bad or mediocre mesmers are just terrible.

It is a much less forgiving of error then most.

[Achrr The Archer]

Originally Posted by Cracko

actually, lots of good players use bullstrike on a random when they are anticipating you will run, nothing wrong there.

I'm pretty sure these warriors aren't the ones you're talking about. These are the same warriors that use crushing blow before dev. hammer on a non kded opponent. 1,2,3 button mashing, wee hee.

[lilDeath]

I must say, people have generally used their bars pretty well, and some teams ganked very well.

There have been a few people which obviously played badly, I had a necro, which would cast his skills completely out of order, I told him to read the bar.
Of course, there may have been bad guys on my team, which I do not know about since I did not see (or watch) them use their skills. There have been a few 1 match lose matches, some quite quickly even.

The guys I see messing up most with their bars are the melee guys - sins and wars - but then these you would see it easier than any of the other bars... like a sin not using malice correctly, a war not being able to Bulls, or yes, using Crushing before Devhammer (maybe Crushing just sounds cool?), a mesmer and an ele you really have to be bad to mess up the bar. Some eles just camp you 24/7 with BF and mess just cats on recharge.

[Feathermoore Rep]

The Warrior bar is only bad if you can't bulls + quarterknock. On a team with 2 sins, a warrior is viable other melee choice. The Derv is good for spamming DW and living through initial spikes, but doesn't have as much synergy with Monk RoJ. So with a team with a Rt instead of a Mo, Dervs are acceptable.

I've already stated reasons why Rangers are baed. It takes too good of a Ranger, to make it an decent asset.

As for the Mesmer/Ele discussion. It depends upon player skill. The ele bar requires less skill to be effective. Blind spam + faster and cheaper snare make them more versatile in spliting in groups of 3. The mesmer bar however, with Tease and Pdrain makes casters hate themselves. A good mesmer, can destroy casters. Spread degen, interupt melee, and snare running targets. By far the most capable team is: 3sins, Monk, Mesmer/Ele. Assuming everyone is of average skill. Individual player skill increases the destruction of this team incrementally, esp with field awareness and skill on part of the sins.

The reasoning is becuase its the most offensive without sacrificing defense.
(Let 3 sins be Team 1.)
2 sins allows for more defense sacrificing the offensive power of a sin. (call this team2)
4 sins allows for more offense at the sacrifice of dense. (call this team 3)

With Team 1 vs Team 2, 2 sins simply lineback the two sins from Team 2. This leaves the third sin of Team 1 to pressure a caster. With a Monk/Mes support, RoJ on one of the sins targets, leaves a Mes to spread degen and caster hate. In a 5v5 team, 3 sins should win ever time. Takin account to splits, 3 sins is also too much melee hate to deal with. Team 1 can lose a split can lose depending on how the teams split, but overall just cap BC once you have the advantage, and force a 5v5.

With 4 sins a monk (call it Team 3), its more tricky to win an outright 5v5. Most likely one of the sins on Team 3 will try and gank your monk. This saves you some trouble right away. Between Team 1s Monk n Mes/Ele. That sin should be useless. This leaves Team 1s 3 sins to matchup evenly with the remaining sins. With only 1 RoJ on the other team, its a crap shoot to what its going to be used on. The only thing you have to worry about really is, the RoJ being used on the Monk thats being ganked. If you don't stop the monk from being KD'd your going to be in trouble. if you can survive this RoJ, you're in the clear. The Mes can put out enough unblockable degen, dw, and interrupts, that something is going to die. Assuming all 3 sin vs sin matchups, PS>sig of malice > the battle will be won by the better player (or he who has BC shrine).
The same goes for split matchups. with 2 sins, and 2 sins and monk being an optimal split for Team 3. Its based on player skill once again. Here Ele is easier to pump out dmg while spamming blind. Mesmer, has to make sure they hit both tease and sig of clum. If you miss, you're going to get chained, and then your screwed.

As for soloing 2 people, i've done it several times, usually one is a gift because they are a bad sin, the other i have to just out play. (which given the player skill in CB isn't that hard)

[BlackSephir]

Originally Posted by Cracko

actually, lots of good players use bullstrike on a random when they are anticipating you will run, nothing wrong there.

Yeah, not exactly the same thing.

[David Wooding]

I'm actually sick of leaver's and resigners. Every game I've lost has started by my team going down by 3/4 points and my entire team resigning. Then spending the rest of the game sitting in the Res Shrine moaning at me because I haven't resigned, or people just leave because they died. Once. FFS this is PvP!

Also, what the hell is up with the builds this year, they are terrible!

I'd be quite happy to sit here and rant about costume brawl all night, but I'll save you the trouble.

[Sarevok Thordin]

Well I find it mostly fun except for the people who bitch and whine like it is a GvG match. IT'S A RANDOM PVP MODE, you aren't going to get GvG quality team, it's a low end arena for gamer points and bags. Stop whining.

As for the builds

Warrior - PERFECT, every aspiring warrior should learn this build, IT'S A NO THRILLS HAMMER BUILD, perfect for learning.
Ranger: Seems ok to me.
Elementalist: Good, teaches you about fight or flight, and cheeky use of chain snaring/blinding.
Mesmer: Good only if you aren't a monkey.
Monk: Mostly a smiter build so you'd THINK people wouldn't care if they didn't have one on their team (you'd be wrong, and those people are tards)
Assassin: Really anet, this build? We've seen it enough in other low end pvp modes already.
Ritualist: Were you THINKING properly? Put an item spell in there <_<
Paragon: Seems fine
Dervish: PISS.

[Chocobo1]

Originally Posted by Sarevok Thordin

Well I find it mostly fun except for the people who bitch and whine like it is a GvG match. IT'S A RANDOM PVP MODE, you aren't going to get GvG quality team, it's a low end arena for gamer points and bags. Stop whining.

As for the builds

Warrior - PERFECT, every aspiring warrior should learn this build, IT'S A NO THRILLS HAMMER BUILD, perfect for learning.
Ranger: Seems ok to me.
Elementalist: Good, teaches you about fight or flight, and cheeky use of chain snaring/blinding.
Mesmer: Good only if you aren't a monkey.
Monk: Mostly a smiter build so you'd THINK people wouldn't care if they didn't have one on their team (you'd be wrong, and those people are tards)
Assassin: Really anet, this build? We've seen it enough in other low end pvp modes already.
Ritualist: Were you THINKING properly? Put an item spell in there <_<
Paragon: Seems fine
Dervish: PISS.

Where was the necromancer ;_;.

[Gli]

Just had a run of 24 with a terrible team, on nothing but the strength of triple-sin kill-power!

[Sarevok Thordin]

Originally Posted by Chocobo1

Where was the necromancer ;_;.

There was a necromancer?
On a srs note: So terrible I forgot how nasty necros are.

[Cracko]

Originally Posted by Achrr The Archer

I'm pretty sure these warriors aren't the ones you're talking about. These are the same warriors that use crushing blow before dev. hammer on a non kded opponent. 1,2,3 button mashing, wee hee.

like that, i hear ya

Originally Posted by BlackSephir

Yeah, not exactly the same thing.

atleast you know what i mean.

[Feathermoore Rep]

Oh right, and if you aren't going in with all +physical armor and 20% condition reduction runes and piercing shields. Do it now.

An extra +20 armor versus sins is nothing to shake a stick at. I'm not gonna spam it in CB in game because I love rolling nubs. But if you on Guru, i hope your smart enough to realize this.

If you not, don't admit it and get more of an advantage for yourself. :-p

[Greedy Gus]

I don't understand why people don't mob the battle cry & health shrines with priority, especially on the map where they're on the same side. Once you get those best shrines, you can generally win any fights and mop up the rest of the morale/energy shrines.

[Arkantos]

Originally Posted by Achrr The Archer

I'm pretty sure these warriors aren't the ones you're talking about. These are the same warriors that use crushing blow before dev. hammer on a non kded opponent. 1,2,3 button mashing, wee hee.

Almost every warrior I've played against in costume brawl has done that.

[Expherious]

I hate when people say its all about killing when really it more about mobility and defense.. if your smart..


Ive had several serious arguments with teammates about this... theyve all been assassins..

BTW WE NEED MORE MONKS PLAYING.

[Shayne Hawke]

What's with people declaring that the Ritualist build needs a bundle item?

[worstnameevar]

I've been playing monk since CB started up this year.

Teams that won me the most points:

Sin, Sin, Sin, Ele, Mo
Sin, Sin, Sin, Mes, Mo
Sin, Sin, War, Rt, Mo
Sin, Ele, Mes, Rt, Mo

[Mr. Undisclosed]

What's with people declaring that the Ritualist build needs a bundle item?

Because its easier to carry a pot around then to have to poop spirit out.

Originally Posted by Sarevok Thordin

Well I find it mostly fun except for the people who bitch and whine like it is a GvG match. IT'S A RANDOM PVP MODE, you aren't going to get GvG quality team, it's a low end arena for gamer points and bags. Stop whining.

As for the builds

Warrior - OK.
Ranger: PISS.
Elementalist: Good.
Mesmer: Good.
Monk: Good.
Assassin: Good.
Ritualist: Meh.
Paragon: PISS.
Dervish: PISS.
Necromancer: PISS.

Fixed that all up for ya.